Non-Believers

What do you say to someone who doesn’t believe in God?

Because someone doesn’t believe in God doesn’t make God any less existent. I can say I don’t believe in taxes, but they are still due on April 15th (whether I pay them or not is irrelevant to their existence).

If one doesn’t believe in God then that one is either an Atheist or an Agnostic. Either way, that one defies the Laws of Logic and is thereby illogical. Though Christians are the one’s labeled “ignorant,” by definition the Atheist and Agnostic are the ones uninformed, and not for a lack of information (Agnostic) or evidence (Atheist).

While there are many ways that we could go about this – like arguing the definition of “Atheist” and how the point is lost to thus be and the unintelligibility of an “Agnostic” to ultimately know if he/she exists or not, or using a strict theological debate where the insistence is to keep everything biblical, or strict debate according to the Laws of Logic where we deal with first principals, subsequent principles, and syllogisms – I will limit my answer to deductive reasoning only as it is the best way that I have found to have a discussion without enflaming the person to which I speak (and vice-versa).

The point of my argument, here, is not to prove God (which is illogical, God needs not proving), but to get the person to deduce the necessity of a “God” or, for this intent and purpose, a “First Cause.”

It should also be noted that some people are simply opponents (not because I want them to be, but because they only want to argue) and no amount of reason will sway them from their delusion.

So it begins:

I ask – “How did we get here?”
The person replies – “Evolution…”

[Now, it is here that we could launch into a tirade about the improbability (rather, impossibility) of the Evolutionary Hypothesis but, at this point, I continue on with the dialogue.]

I ask – “From what did we Evolve?”
The person’s reply – “Monkeys, fish, primeval pool of single celled organisms, etc…”

I ask – “From where did this string of events come?”
The person’s reply – “From random ‘living matter…’”

I ask – “From where did this ‘living matter’ come?”
The person’s reply – “From dead matter…”

[Again, it is here that we could point out the improbability (rather, impossibility) that dead matter could produce living matter. I mean, even Darwin explained that something “outside of creation” had to produce the “energy” to bring life to dead matter, which I would then ask the origin of this “something outside of creation.” He would never admit God but, really, what else can you call something “outside of creation” other than God?]

[But, I digress…]

I ask – “From where did the dead matter come?”
The person’s reply – “From the ‘Big Bang…’”

[Again, I digress…]

I ask – “So, all matter came as a result of the ‘Big Bang?’ From where, then, did the ‘bang’ come? From your own account, something from outside of matter (creation for the Christian) must have ‘banged’ the material being ‘banged.’”

See, the argument is that it is illogical to think that something uncreated suddenly decides to create itself. It cannot “decide” anything, for it doesn’t exist. Something that doesn’t exist cannot make itself exist. Something outside of itself must decide that it wants it to exist. And this something is the “First Cause.” I call Him “God” because He likes it!

Like it or not, any reasonable person must agree to this deduction of a “First Cause.” And then we can talk about this being the God of the Bible.

Incidentally, the person to whom you speak will probably, at some point, ask, “From where did God come” or “Who created God?”

To which I would reply, “God, by definition, cannot ‘come from’ anywhere. He cannot be created or He is not God and I am talking about whoever made him. Being outside of creation (or matter) there is no need for Him to be created.”

Ultimately this will lead to where you want to be, in a conversation about God.

Remember, there is nothing to fear from any “scientific” argument, for real “science” will always give evidence of God.

The Empirical Method (“science”) is the study of the natural processes of creation.

God is supernatural, and not only outside of the natural, but the Creator of it.

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